[quote:90946f47c1]So for these reasons I think that pikemen on paintings do not wear colletes.
But I think they could use thin leather jerkin for protecting his clothes. For that reason they didnt have to wear leather sleeves – because they were unuseful. [/quote:90946f47c1]
Raia, thin leather jerkins of that period were one of most expensive and sophisticated clothes. They were often embroidered with silk or even silver, and usually lightly padded. If someone could order a doublet or jerkin made of gentle thin leather, he could also posses three servants, carriage, a horse and three [b:90946f47c1]buff coats[/b:90946f47c1], not only one ;) (Note- collet in english is a type of clamp- it's a tool, not a dress). Between shirt and armour was a padded jack, buff coat or a simple doublet. Sleeveless leather jerkins even don't look like buff coats, they are not that long.
I strongly recommend you Janet Arnold's “Patterns of Fashion”- a book dedicated to renaissance and baroque fashion of western Europe.
And don't be afraid, there is no danger of deluge of buff coated foot soldiers ;) because of cost this type of wear. According to me, it should be reserved for heaviest armoured soldiers with best equipment - 3, 4 people for every 8-10 in the first line maybe. And we accepted it as a standard for our group. I suppose, a mirror image of a baroque reality ;) Best regards, A.
Bryan, też zgadzam się z wnioskiem Sawy i kolegom z Czech odpisałem w tymże duchu :) Sawa, przepisz proszę ten pomysł o liniach do działu taktyka, to usunę Twój post stąd- chcę uporządkować zawartość topików. Z góry dziękuję :)
- typical thin leather jerkin of the baroque period.
Flandes es infierno. Infierno del agua y lodo..
Der eine stößt den Speer zum Mann
Der andere zum Fische dann